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		<title>By: Judy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its quite disguiting how some &quot;Christian&quot; counseling session counsel.  My husband was dianosed as bi-polor and on various prescription drugs.  Zoloft was one.  The counselor told me to &quot;cut him some slack--I was controlling--and a &quot;beer or two wouldn&#039;t hurt.  The doctor specifically told him not to drink alcohol.  Anyway, the abusive behavior continued, called me horrible names, lusting after every women and back to pornography.  Finally, one morning he said he was going to get a knife and cut himself and call the police to tell him I tried to kill him.  My mother heard this-(I was talking to her on the phone) and she called 911.  The next day I got a restraining order for two years.  I wanted him to change--but I also needed him to change for 8 yrs and he never did.  He went and spoke with my pastor, left me a couple of messages about turning his life around--how he has been unfaithful and still in this pattern.  LET ME TELL YOU, I loved him and married him thinking I could help him change...GIRLS GIRLS--HE MUST WANT TO CHANGE AND WANT TO CHANGE HIS LIFESTYLE--YOU CANNOT.  I gave it my all-attended all sorts of counseling and most of the pastors turned it around and said to have compassion.  Violence without repentance is something that no one deserves for life.  I FINALLY ACCEPTED THE FACT THAT HE&#039;S BEEN GONE (moved away to NY) FOR 1 year--no repentance or concern for me.  THE LORD INSTRUCTS A HUSBAND TO BE A PROTECTOR!!  Hopefully churches can get domestic violence training to recognize this behavior instead of blaming the person who is on the end of the violence!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its quite disguiting how some &#8220;Christian&#8221; counseling session counsel.  My husband was dianosed as bi-polor and on various prescription drugs.  Zoloft was one.  The counselor told me to &#8220;cut him some slack&#8211;I was controlling&#8211;and a &#8220;beer or two wouldn&#8217;t hurt.  The doctor specifically told him not to drink alcohol.  Anyway, the abusive behavior continued, called me horrible names, lusting after every women and back to pornography.  Finally, one morning he said he was going to get a knife and cut himself and call the police to tell him I tried to kill him.  My mother heard this-(I was talking to her on the phone) and she called 911.  The next day I got a restraining order for two years.  I wanted him to change&#8211;but I also needed him to change for 8 yrs and he never did.  He went and spoke with my pastor, left me a couple of messages about turning his life around&#8211;how he has been unfaithful and still in this pattern.  LET ME TELL YOU, I loved him and married him thinking I could help him change&#8230;GIRLS GIRLS&#8211;HE MUST WANT TO CHANGE AND WANT TO CHANGE HIS LIFESTYLE&#8211;YOU CANNOT.  I gave it my all-attended all sorts of counseling and most of the pastors turned it around and said to have compassion.  Violence without repentance is something that no one deserves for life.  I FINALLY ACCEPTED THE FACT THAT HE&#8217;S BEEN GONE (moved away to NY) FOR 1 year&#8211;no repentance or concern for me.  THE LORD INSTRUCTS A HUSBAND TO BE A PROTECTOR!!  Hopefully churches can get domestic violence training to recognize this behavior instead of blaming the person who is on the end of the violence!!!</p>
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		<title>By: marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 06:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been searching reading the Bible as a faithful Christian as for an answer to divorce from an abusive. The overall concern whether the Lord would forgive me for not having faith in the Lord to make my husband who is also a faithful Christian change his physical and emotional abuse. This is the best answer I have ever heard on the situation that can be given. That being it is a third party person who is not involved emotionally to the couple who endure this behavior in a relationship. The Lord wants us to be loved and live happy and to only fear him. Our husbands are to love us as they love our God and his church. So thank you for this and I&#039;m glad God used this post to save my life...amen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been searching reading the Bible as a faithful Christian as for an answer to divorce from an abusive. The overall concern whether the Lord would forgive me for not having faith in the Lord to make my husband who is also a faithful Christian change his physical and emotional abuse. This is the best answer I have ever heard on the situation that can be given. That being it is a third party person who is not involved emotionally to the couple who endure this behavior in a relationship. The Lord wants us to be loved and live happy and to only fear him. Our husbands are to love us as they love our God and his church. So thank you for this and I&#8217;m glad God used this post to save my life&#8230;amen!</p>
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		<title>By: brentriggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>brentriggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 01:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,
I would give you some advice and help you if you would email me privately. I&#039;m here if you want to talk to me directly... Brent
brent@brentriggs.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,<br />
I would give you some advice and help you if you would email me privately. I&#8217;m here if you want to talk to me directly&#8230; Brent<br />
<a href="mailto:brent@brentriggs.com">brent@brentriggs.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my fiancée is angry, she hits me in the face while I&#039;m driving on the expressway at 60 mph.  She gets mad when I try to help family members through difficult times but money isn&#039;t scarce (i make over 125k).  She does not work (no job) but plays video games (World of Warcraft all hours of the day) or is on her Facebook (iPhone) and accuses me of causing her to be angry all the time.  

If I go for a walk/run with an old friend, she gets angry.  I&#039;m not able to speak to family members or friends (of course I can) but then I&#039;ll have to hear it from her for the next few days.  She&#039;ll always make it seem like it somehow takes away from her, even though it doesn&#039;t in any way shape or form.

I try to be patient and reasonable and it&#039;s always backfired.  During an argument, when she clearly isn&#039;t calming down after I apologize and try to be nice/loving, I take her home and on the way she screams the entire ride home asking me why I&#039;m such a jerk (although I did nothing wrong; I have tried to empathize and be patient).  I even give her 3 options at the end of the night.  Either we can a) calm down and actually talk about it without screaming or hitting. b) we can each go home (separately) and cool off before resuming our efforts to resolve the issue or c) we can stay angry and scream and end the night on a bad not which will get us no where.

She ALWAYS goes with the worst possible scenario.

I need her to respect me (otherwise, I can&#039;t talk to her) and she knows this but when she&#039;s mad, she goes into a rage.  Since being with her, I have slowly grown apart from friends, have been less active bc anything I want to do, she refuses.  

I&#039;ve come to know Christ again about 10 months ago and it&#039;s been an uphill battle with her.  I have stayed with her because of the fear that God would disapprove of me parting ways bc we have already slept with each other.

I do not want to fornicate anymore and I&#039;ve made every effort to stop but when I&#039;m doing well, she will accuse me of getting off from something else (which I haven&#039;t been) and then if we kiss harmlessly, she will check to see if I&#039;m turned on and if not she will get extremely angry even though she knows I&#039;m trying to keep myself grounded.  Then I end up sleeping with her to prove that I haven&#039;t done anything and it&#039;s really frustrating because it hinders my faith and walk with God.

Sometimes I fantasize on what it would be like if she were more mature.  Maybe if she worked and had her own thing going on which would give me time to continue pursuing my passions and maintaining friendships and helping people which I enjoy but she makes out to be wrong.  I purchased a 12,000 ring for our engagement because she got angry with me when I told her I was planning to spend 6,000.  She scoffed and told me that her sister got an 18,000 ring.  That ring put me into debt for almost a year and I was in the middle of trying to pay off my car (which thankfully, I paid off a few days ago).

I hate eating out, but she always refuses to eat anything at home, so we go out all the time.  I enjoy eating out, but lately, my heart has been in pain and so I want to eat at home and workout, but she doesn&#039;t participate.  She would rather play her game.

I work very hard and try to provide, protect and I want to start a family and to be at peace with my future wife with love and respect in Christ.  I worry that I will fail in whatever it is I&#039;m supposed to be doing in life (if she continues to be this way).
  
I mean, will she hit me in front of the kids?  Will she hit me while I&#039;m driving with kids in the back seat?

I used to enjoy writing songs (have won many contests with large cash prizes) but she hates that I have written songs in the past about my ex and therefore, I&#039;m no longer allowed to release songs to the public bc anyone can search and find my old songs.

My dad and mother both have tried to convince me to leave her and it&#039;s difficult, especially when I consider how wrong it would be for me to just leave.

Don&#039;t mind me, just venting from my frustrations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my fiancée is angry, she hits me in the face while I&#8217;m driving on the expressway at 60 mph.  She gets mad when I try to help family members through difficult times but money isn&#8217;t scarce (i make over 125k).  She does not work (no job) but plays video games (World of Warcraft all hours of the day) or is on her Facebook (iPhone) and accuses me of causing her to be angry all the time.  </p>
<p>If I go for a walk/run with an old friend, she gets angry.  I&#8217;m not able to speak to family members or friends (of course I can) but then I&#8217;ll have to hear it from her for the next few days.  She&#8217;ll always make it seem like it somehow takes away from her, even though it doesn&#8217;t in any way shape or form.</p>
<p>I try to be patient and reasonable and it&#8217;s always backfired.  During an argument, when she clearly isn&#8217;t calming down after I apologize and try to be nice/loving, I take her home and on the way she screams the entire ride home asking me why I&#8217;m such a jerk (although I did nothing wrong; I have tried to empathize and be patient).  I even give her 3 options at the end of the night.  Either we can a) calm down and actually talk about it without screaming or hitting. b) we can each go home (separately) and cool off before resuming our efforts to resolve the issue or c) we can stay angry and scream and end the night on a bad not which will get us no where.</p>
<p>She ALWAYS goes with the worst possible scenario.</p>
<p>I need her to respect me (otherwise, I can&#8217;t talk to her) and she knows this but when she&#8217;s mad, she goes into a rage.  Since being with her, I have slowly grown apart from friends, have been less active bc anything I want to do, she refuses.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve come to know Christ again about 10 months ago and it&#8217;s been an uphill battle with her.  I have stayed with her because of the fear that God would disapprove of me parting ways bc we have already slept with each other.</p>
<p>I do not want to fornicate anymore and I&#8217;ve made every effort to stop but when I&#8217;m doing well, she will accuse me of getting off from something else (which I haven&#8217;t been) and then if we kiss harmlessly, she will check to see if I&#8217;m turned on and if not she will get extremely angry even though she knows I&#8217;m trying to keep myself grounded.  Then I end up sleeping with her to prove that I haven&#8217;t done anything and it&#8217;s really frustrating because it hinders my faith and walk with God.</p>
<p>Sometimes I fantasize on what it would be like if she were more mature.  Maybe if she worked and had her own thing going on which would give me time to continue pursuing my passions and maintaining friendships and helping people which I enjoy but she makes out to be wrong.  I purchased a 12,000 ring for our engagement because she got angry with me when I told her I was planning to spend 6,000.  She scoffed and told me that her sister got an 18,000 ring.  That ring put me into debt for almost a year and I was in the middle of trying to pay off my car (which thankfully, I paid off a few days ago).</p>
<p>I hate eating out, but she always refuses to eat anything at home, so we go out all the time.  I enjoy eating out, but lately, my heart has been in pain and so I want to eat at home and workout, but she doesn&#8217;t participate.  She would rather play her game.</p>
<p>I work very hard and try to provide, protect and I want to start a family and to be at peace with my future wife with love and respect in Christ.  I worry that I will fail in whatever it is I&#8217;m supposed to be doing in life (if she continues to be this way).</p>
<p>I mean, will she hit me in front of the kids?  Will she hit me while I&#8217;m driving with kids in the back seat?</p>
<p>I used to enjoy writing songs (have won many contests with large cash prizes) but she hates that I have written songs in the past about my ex and therefore, I&#8217;m no longer allowed to release songs to the public bc anyone can search and find my old songs.</p>
<p>My dad and mother both have tried to convince me to leave her and it&#8217;s difficult, especially when I consider how wrong it would be for me to just leave.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t mind me, just venting from my frustrations.</p>
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		<title>By: demetria williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>demetria williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thank God for understanding christians,but I pray for the ones who stop speaking to the lady,for divorcing her husband. God said for whoever the Son set free is free indeed.That type of behavior of a husband is bondage.God do not want us in nothing that is controling us. There is freedom in God, and He said by love and kindness have I draw you. Not abuse and bondage.But keep in mind the husband needs our prayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thank God for understanding christians,but I pray for the ones who stop speaking to the lady,for divorcing her husband. God said for whoever the Son set free is free indeed.That type of behavior of a husband is bondage.God do not want us in nothing that is controling us. There is freedom in God, and He said by love and kindness have I draw you. Not abuse and bondage.But keep in mind the husband needs our prayers.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 01:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that this woman had to do what she had to do and after years of trying. God hates divorce but this man &quot;abandoned&quot; his wife and their wedding vows when he first started beating her. He did not show repentence. I work with a ministry that deals with people in these situations and often only the harshest of consequences can make people in his state ever turn around. Unfortunately, many people have to lose everything before they repent and turn to the Lord. I&#039;ve heard many testimonies of people like this who said it wasn&#039;t until after everything was permanent (as in divorce) that they woke up to their sin and the harm it caused them and their loved-ones. It was the ultimate consequences to their actions. The wonderful thing is that this is not the end of many stories. Nothing is broken beyond repair with God. Many of these people, repented, changed their lives, began a genuine walk with Christ and in some cases were able to reconcile with their spouses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this woman had to do what she had to do and after years of trying. God hates divorce but this man &#8220;abandoned&#8221; his wife and their wedding vows when he first started beating her. He did not show repentence. I work with a ministry that deals with people in these situations and often only the harshest of consequences can make people in his state ever turn around. Unfortunately, many people have to lose everything before they repent and turn to the Lord. I&#8217;ve heard many testimonies of people like this who said it wasn&#8217;t until after everything was permanent (as in divorce) that they woke up to their sin and the harm it caused them and their loved-ones. It was the ultimate consequences to their actions. The wonderful thing is that this is not the end of many stories. Nothing is broken beyond repair with God. Many of these people, repented, changed their lives, began a genuine walk with Christ and in some cases were able to reconcile with their spouses.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have opened my heart with this post. I was one of the legalist you spoke of. We truly do serve a Merciful and Loving God, He doesn&#039;t want us to go through that sort of punishment so that doctrine can be kept. I believe that marriage is truly sacred, but abuse of that (or any) magnitude is not acceptable. Good advise and thank you for shining a light into my heart as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have opened my heart with this post. I was one of the legalist you spoke of. We truly do serve a Merciful and Loving God, He doesn&#8217;t want us to go through that sort of punishment so that doctrine can be kept. I believe that marriage is truly sacred, but abuse of that (or any) magnitude is not acceptable. Good advise and thank you for shining a light into my heart as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Roberson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Roberson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brent, I could not agree with you more in your response to the wife whose husband was physically abusive.  As a divorce attorney for almost 25 years and a Christian, I had no difficulty in telling people that it was time to take action to protect yourself and, when applicable, the children.  A husband (or wife) who would physically abuse the other or their children must be dealt with immediately.  To suggest that a wife should stay in such a relationship is effectively sentencing her to death--yes, many spouses kill their mates.  The Bible makes it quite clear that the law is authorized by God and is a punishment to evil-doers.  Chrisitans do not have to be abused in the name of &quot;forgiveness,&quot; &quot;tolerance,&quot; or any such thing.  Get to the police and then an attorney, praying all the while that God gives you wisdom and your spouse a change of heart.
As for churches who treat divorcees differently than other members, get out of that church quickly.  Those people are not practicing Christianity and I, for one, suspect that there are not too many Christians in that group of people anyway.  Do not allow yourself to suffer abuse at the hands of &quot;good Christian people,&quot; either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brent, I could not agree with you more in your response to the wife whose husband was physically abusive.  As a divorce attorney for almost 25 years and a Christian, I had no difficulty in telling people that it was time to take action to protect yourself and, when applicable, the children.  A husband (or wife) who would physically abuse the other or their children must be dealt with immediately.  To suggest that a wife should stay in such a relationship is effectively sentencing her to death&#8211;yes, many spouses kill their mates.  The Bible makes it quite clear that the law is authorized by God and is a punishment to evil-doers.  Chrisitans do not have to be abused in the name of &#8220;forgiveness,&#8221; &#8220;tolerance,&#8221; or any such thing.  Get to the police and then an attorney, praying all the while that God gives you wisdom and your spouse a change of heart.<br />
As for churches who treat divorcees differently than other members, get out of that church quickly.  Those people are not practicing Christianity and I, for one, suspect that there are not too many Christians in that group of people anyway.  Do not allow yourself to suffer abuse at the hands of &#8220;good Christian people,&#8221; either.</p>
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		<title>By: brentriggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>brentriggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generally speaking, I would agree and give the same advice. I always encourage people try again, try harder, try one more time.

In this particular case, private discussion with this person revealed years of effort and patience, years of broken promises, escalating violence and final ultimatum (chances) that were ignored again. 

End the end, she has to make that decision herself, between her and God, but given what I was told, this dear sister had taken a beating (NO PUN INTENDED) trying to keep the marriage together and avoid divorce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally speaking, I would agree and give the same advice. I always encourage people try again, try harder, try one more time.</p>
<p>In this particular case, private discussion with this person revealed years of effort and patience, years of broken promises, escalating violence and final ultimatum (chances) that were ignored again. </p>
<p>End the end, she has to make that decision herself, between her and God, but given what I was told, this dear sister had taken a beating (NO PUN INTENDED) trying to keep the marriage together and avoid divorce.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brent, you have given wise advice.  However...I&#039;m thinking that 
a &quot;LONG TERM SEPARATION&quot; (months? or even years?), which would include a RESTRAINING ORDER, would be more honoring to the Lord than a trip to a Divorce Attorney. (Thereby, giving more opportunity for God to work in her husband&#039;s heart and life.)  Until both are done, (and possibly Christian counseling) I don&#039;t believe He would approve of a divorce.  Divorce hurts people.  A &quot;family&quot; is forever broken.  (Not merely a &quot;marriage.&quot;)  Generally, people are in too much of a hurry to divorce when a long separation, time spent in the Word and fasting and prayer, is what is needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brent, you have given wise advice.  However&#8230;I&#8217;m thinking that<br />
a &#8220;LONG TERM SEPARATION&#8221; (months? or even years?), which would include a RESTRAINING ORDER, would be more honoring to the Lord than a trip to a Divorce Attorney. (Thereby, giving more opportunity for God to work in her husband&#8217;s heart and life.)  Until both are done, (and possibly Christian counseling) I don&#8217;t believe He would approve of a divorce.  Divorce hurts people.  A &#8220;family&#8221; is forever broken.  (Not merely a &#8220;marriage.&#8221;)  Generally, people are in too much of a hurry to divorce when a long separation, time spent in the Word and fasting and prayer, is what is needed.</p>
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