Well folks, I guess I’ll have to go ahead and shut down SeriousFaith.com.
Stephen Hawking has ended all speculation about God with the following declaration backed up by his unimpeachable wisdom, supreme insight and unquestioned opinion:
“Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist.”
Really? Where did the Law of Gravity come from? Spontaneous creation? And these kind of people like to say Christianity is “blind faith”?
So it’s blind faith to believe an eternal, personal God created the universe… but it’s “science” to believe the universe spontaneously appeared from nothing, for no reason because of a previously existing Law of Gravity (isn’t the existence of a law “something”?). Now isn’t THAT something????
A statement like is yet another piece of evidence that the Bible really is God’s supernaturally delivered revelation predicting two thousand years ago that:
Romans 1:22–23 (NKJV) Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
I actually have great empathy for Hawking knowing that very soon he’ll stand before the God he denies and give account for the millions of people he deceived with his God-given brilliance.
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Boy Brent, I sure am glad that you wrote this “tongue in cheek”!
I look forward to getting my copy of Serious Faith and would be deeply saddened if you truly did shut it down!
And your next to last paragraph says it best and why you should not shut down the blog (even though I know you were not serious about it). What I refer to is when you write; “I actually have great empathy for Hawking knowing that very soon he’ll stand before the God he denies and give account for the millions of people he deceived with his God-given brilliance.” Thank you, Brent, for fighting the good fight!
Stephen Hawking said this? I heard him say the exact opposite of this in a documentary film..Something about Heaven..Wish I could remember the entire title.
I saw that article and thought it was so sad…for Hawking. I don’t understand his logic either regarding the Law of Gravity. Like you said I wonder where he believes the law came from?
Ooh, you almost made a good point, Brent, but then you went and used the words “spontaneously appeared from nothing, for no reason,” proving you don’t have any idea what you’re talking about. So close!
Don’t know what I’m talking about huh? Well you proven your sarcastic wit… Can you back it up by objectively disproving that apart from an eternal personal Creator you are FORCED to believe that something spontaneously appeared from nothing? Or else believe that matter itself is eternal and capable of organizing itself into higher forms despite all known laws and observation.
I enjoy good conversation and debate but you can go ahead and hang on to the arrogant sarcasm.
FYI, I appreciate Tom not hiding behind the cowardly “anonymous” veil. At least he has the courage to stand up for his comments.
I’m not sure what you’d like me to disprove (as if I had the power to do that in a comments section). I’ve never heard of anybody who claims that anything “spontaneously appeared from nothing, for no reason.” The Big Bang–as little as is currently knows about it or what caused it–was certainly not matter spontaneously appearing from nothing. Briefly, all matter in the universe was condensed into a very tiny spot before expanding rapidly.
I would never look down upon anybody who believes God had a divine hand in the formation of the universe. I suppose when I see somebody mocking a man like Hawking with such folly and incredible misunderstanding, I do get a bit smarmy, and for that I apologize.
I will not be able to completely explain it well here in this form, so I can only suggest you find a book on the subject, perhaps Hawking’s latest. Good day, sir.
Apology accepted, thank you.
Where did the “tiny spot” come from? It was “something”. What are it’s origins? Did the tiny spot appear spontaneously from nothing for no reason? Was the tiny spot eternal? What CAUSED the tiny spot to expand rapidly? Pure chance? Even if true (and that doesn’t explain how the tiny spot came to exist unless we just accept without question it was eternal), how did a tiny spot of material matter become life, purpose, love, justice, music, joy, thought, creativeness? How did it make the insurmountable jump from lifeless material to living material? Then make the infinitely bigger jump from living material to thinking, rational, creative beings (humans)? Don’t say “read books about evolution” because they are nothing but ever-changing theory and guesses based on no evidence, no proof and no logic.
It is fairy tales based on ONE THING: we MUST deny there is a God no matter how absurd and illogical our theories have to be about this universe, this life and the reason for our existence. Have you ever thought about that aspect? The reason why ANY theory no matter how impossible is always something people will believe to avoid believing in God.
Something from nothing is impossible (a tiny spot is something). Something dead spontaneously becoming something living (even if it took billions of years) is impossible. Something living transforming into something entirely different (a protein into a creature; a creature into a plant; a plant into an animal; an animal into an entire different kind of animal; an animal into a human) is impossible. It’s never been witnessed, never been replicated and there is ZERO evidence for it unless you choose to believe that artists drawings in books as evidence.
It is MORE than impossible than animal life because human life by random time and chance. And yet, in order to deny God, the most intelligent men on Earth, like Hawking, will believe that fantasy to their eternal demise for one reason only: because they will not consider believing in God even though an eternal, personal, creative God is the most obvious and logical answer that fits all the evidence we have before us.
Why would I even want to read any more Hawking? He denies God. That makes everything he says or thinks automatically biased and skewed. That’s not science. He starts with a predetermined conclusion with no possibility of a Creator. That makes him a a fool, not a scientist regardless of what he and the world label him.
You don’t have to HEAR someone claim “spontaneously appeared from nothing, for no reason.” It is a logical conclusion. You only have three options: either someONE existed eternally and created someTHING. Or someTHING existed eternally and created/organized more of itself. Or NOTHING existed eternally and SOMEthing was created spontaneously for no reason.
Can you think of another option?
Option three is absurd except to those who MUST deny God at all costs and will accept a fairy tale impossibility. Option two makes dead material not only eternal but creative which is also absurd. Option one if perfectly logical and plausible but opens the door that we are probably accountable to that Creator, and not “gods” of our lives. It is for that reason man will look around at this magnificent creation that screams “THERE MUST BE CREATOR” and still deny that obvious and unavoidable fact.
“Something from nothing is impossible.”
Agreed. Religionists are the only ones I know of who believe God created something from nothing. Using this as an argument against science is ridiculous, as it would be if I said “The bible must be a lie, because there is no such thing as pink unicorns” (implying that there are pink unicorns in the bible).
“Something dead spontaneously becoming something living is impossible.” Again, the bible is full of stories of the dead spontaneously coming to life. The book of Matthew states that when Jesus died, dead saints broke out of their graves and ran around scaring the locals, a fantastic story oddly missing from the other gospels. Also, I suggest you set a glass of water on your back porch for a few days and see if anything living spontaneously appears on the water. In laboratories, microscopic organisms have been proven to form from certain organic compounds in repeated experiments. Assemble the right elements, and life can, has, and does spontaneously appear. Call it a miracle, call it science. It happens!
There is still a great deal unknown about what came before the Big Bang, but one thing is VERY certain: the universe did not magically appear from nothing. I seriously encourage you to better educate yourself on opposing arguments in order to make your own argument stronger and better informed.
That is some of the worst examples of straw man arguments I’ve ever heard. You are simply avoiding answering the ultimate and unavoidable questions that God-deniers cannot answer. I almost didn’t even post your comments but they are a useful lesson in the idiocy men will turn to in order to avoid believing in God.
I always find it humorous that people who don’t believe in God then try to turn around and use the Bible to support their arguments, then lecture me about getting more educated before answering. Your answers are wholly uneducated about BOTH the Bible and science. You ACTUALLY believe what you wrote?
Your comments display an absurd lack of understanding of both the Bible, life and origins. Your answer is yet further evidence of God’s truth: men become wise in their own eyes, exchanging the truth for lie being FOOLS in reality.
“Life can, has and does spontaneously appear”… well Tom my friend, I suggest you get to proving and demonstrating that because you’ll be the most famous scientist in history. When you get something to appear from nothing (your water glass example is a laughable lack of scientific understanding), then sign me up because you’ll have PROVEN God isn’t necessary.
Brent, is it really Christ-like at all to insult people like you just insulted Tom Baker? Would Christ have called him an “idiot” or a “fool” like you just did? Remember Matthew 22:39 “And the second is like it: You must love your neighbor as yourself.” No matter how much someone (or something) frustrates you, you’re not supposed to show hatred towards that person or thing. (And yes, name-calling is, in fact, hateful, since it can really hurt a person’s feelings.)
God bless you today and always,
Hannah