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Question: Will God Forgive Me?

A reader asks:

I was previously married for two years before becoming a Christian. I'm now happily married to another Christian and we have three handsome boys. I confessed my sins for the wrong that I did. Do you think will God forgive me?

My answer:

I don't "think" God will forgive you, I KNOW He will forgive you:

1 John 1:9 (NKJV) If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

We cannot always avoid the consequences of our sin in our life, but EVERY time we SINCERELY repent and ask God's forgiveness, God does forgive. He does this not because He must, or because we are "worth it" but because it glorifies CHRIST.  God forgives because of Christ, in honor of Christ, to glorify Christ and to fulfill Christ.

No where in Scripture do we ever find the principle of committing a 2nd wrong to correct a first. What we do find repeatedly is the idea that we start right now, right where are at in whatever situation obeying God's commands from that moment on . God does not command us to divorce a current spouse to go back and "fix" and unBiblical divorce from the past.

We are to have God's mind about marriage TODAY in whatever circumstance we find ourselves, and live from now on by God's word concerning life long marriage.

The principle of God's forgiveness on a daily basis is the same: Have you confessed the sin (acknowledged it it wrong in God's eyes) and repented (set your mind to not do that sin again)? Then it is forgiven. Put it in the past, press on towards your high calling in Christ.  

Unlike modern therapy, we are not callled to live in the past and constantly be "recovering" from them. You can't change yesterday, and you have no promise of tomorrow. TODAY is the Lord's day in your life, the only day in which you will be held accountable to obey God, confess your sins and press on.

Philippians 3:13-15 (NKJV; emphasis mine) Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Therefore let us, as many as are mature, have this mind; and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal even this to you. 


My Wayward Son

 

A reader asks:

My twenty-something son has been married a couple of years.  Now he says he should have never married.  He failed to tell us of an affair he was having that started online. His Christian wife is devastated and tried to work to save her marriage but my son had no intentions of doing that.  We have counseled him and so have many other friends and family. He is planning on moving out any day now.  All of our hearts are broken.  My son is a Christian and he claims the other much younger girl is as well despite their adultery. How do I treat my unrepentant son?  I am very confused because the Bible does talk about not having anything to do with a sexually immoral and unrepentant Christian; am I supposed to shun my child?

How am I supposed to treat this other girl?  Should I allow her in my home, or him for that matter?  I feel like if I do then I am condoning what they have done by accepting them and I feel like I am betraying my daughter in-law. I know my son will suffer consequences from his actions and I am praying at some point for an awareness and repentance of what he has done, loving him is easy, but I do not like him right now so how do I act towards him?  Thank you and God Bless, Karen

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My Answer:

We have to be careful about assuming our kids are "Believers" (which is hard for parents) because we can point to some event or confession in their life. We are known by our FRUIT and I would err on the side of evidence and not give him the comfort and security of "I know you are saved but…"  Appropriate conviction, guilt and shamecome from pointing out to him that he is acting like someone who is lost. He should therefore be concerned about his salvation as well as "you reap what you sow" (the consequences).  You might approach him with "you CLAIM Christ but…."  

There will be those who tell you "just lov'em… just lov'em no matter what" which is code for avoiding condemnation, guilt or shame in light of God's Truth. This is false love devoid of reality and truth. True love never involves avoiding the confrontation and acknowledgment of sin. 

As for your son specifically, treat him as a sinning Believer because that is how he is acting (with the added admonition that he should consider if he is really saved at all). He's still your child. You love him but don't enable him. Be his mom but don't approve of his choices passively or specifically. You keep your arms and eyes open for the returning Prodigal but don't assuage his guilt or relieve his consequences in any way.  Guilt, shame and bitter harvest help lead the wayward to repentance. Don't rescue him, enable him or support him through his choices (even when it gets really painful to watch) while never withdrawing your love and readiness to forgive.

You need to have a separate, private talk with your daughter-in-law. Tell her you love her, support her, and do not condone what your son is doing. Remind her "he's my son and I can't change that, nor do I love him less but I'm on the side of Godliness and I will never stop loving you and caring for you in any way I can. Please don't alienate yourself from us because of him… you are still our family…"  Believe me, she NEEDS to hear that from you. 

Also, about "shunning" your son… it is the duty of the Church to exercise church discipline in cases like this (though it is rarely done which is why the Church is so morally weak; can you imagine a Joel Osteen type of church exercising church discipline when they publicly state God didn't call them to teach about sin?). Remember, the purpose of Church discipline is to RESTORE, not punish.  The final result is "putting out" the unrepentant member so they will feel the full weight of losing their fellowship in Christ – a willful choice of their sin over their Christianity.  So while yes, as a Christian you would have to treat him like any other disciplined Believer ("put out"), you would pray it was short term, and hopefully losing his parents and family for a while would provide him even greater motivation to repent.  Difficult I know… but your clear duty is to God first, not your son regardless of how difficult that is.

And, as for the other girlfriend, you do not be unkind to her… she is an unbeliever (or acting like one) in willful sin. You show love and compassion but no compromise on the truth of the situation. Don't do anything to facilitate or enable their relationship, and firmly, with love, at the appropriate times, you let them know: unacceptable!  Witness to her, pray for her and long for her salvation… but don't pretend like this situation is anything other than what it is: ADULTERY.

It's hard when we reach a point of genuinely not liking one of our own kids but it's a common occurrence many endure. Love them. Pray for them. Set an example for them. Be ready to accept them when they repent (which means doing the right thing too, not just being sorry). But don't do anything passively or directly to condone, approve, encourage or enable their sinful choices.

Kids… can't live without them, can't kill them.  It's a real dilemma… 🙂 


I’m Worried Jesus is Lying

Matthew 6:25 ~“Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing?(NKJV; emphasis mine)

Is Jesus a liar? We certainly act like He is.

What does He command? Do not worry unless you are about to lose your job. Do not worry unless the dollar is tanking and your retirement is being ate up. Do not worry unless there are people in power ruining the country. Do not worry unless you have severe enough health problems.

Nope… just DO NOT WORRY.

Well maybe Jesus was being conditional and saying do not worry about your salvation… and do not worry about stuff that ain’t your bee’s wax. Or do not worry if things are going as well as you had hoped.

Nope… just DO NOT WORRY.  Let’s see if there are any loopholes:

  • Do not worry about what you will eat:  food, sustenance.
  • Do no worry about what you will drink: water, the highest necessity for life next to breathing.
  • Do not work about your body: health, imprisonment, clothing, freedom, sickness, dying.

And just in case we missed anything: DO NOT WORRY ABOUT YOUR LIFE.  Give me a minute to come up with something not included in “life”… … … … … … … nada.

DO NOT WORRY: all inclusive.

So, let me ask you this friend: if the Lord Jesus were standing in front of you today and put in His beloved finger in your face and said “I’M TELLING YOU, ***DO*** ***NOT*** ***WORRY***”, what would your reaction be?

  • “Yeah, but….” Yeah, but what? Who you talkin’ to?
  • “You don’t know what I’m going through…” Want to switch places and go through what Jesus went through?
  • “You don’t understand…” Really? The Omniscient, Omnipresent, Eternal Son of God doesn’t understand?

DO NOT WORRY.

Jesus knew what He was commanding. DO NOT WORRY. To do otherwise is to disobey Jesus Christ. His command, not mine. Take it up with Him.

What are you worrying about today? Why are you worrying? Is Jesus a liar? Dumb? A Deceiver? Was He commanding everyone but you? If you are finding it hard to stop worrying, why don’t you get on your knees and ask Jesus to help you obey. “Help me in my lack of faith and trust…”

He will. He promised that too. I’ll let YOU find those verses. It will take your mind off the worry.


God’s Voice or My Own Mind Speaking?

A reader asked:

My question is, how do we discern when God is talking to us? How do we know if it is our own ego and or the devil playing tricks on us? There have been many circumstances which I thought God was telling me what to do, but later find out it obviously was not.

My answer:

There are several ways to determine if we are “hearing God’s voice” or just our own flesh. The first and most definitive is to search the Scriptures.  Is there a Bible verse that commands or genuinely supports the idea or direction you think God is leading you to?  If yes, then you can be confident of God’s leading.

Conversely, if a verse is found that contradicts what you are “hearing” – or specifically commands something different – then you can be sure that what you are hearing is your own flesh, or the Enemy – or perhaps you have misinterpreted something.

Lacking a clear verse that supports or contradicts what you feel God might be saying to you, there are some other considerations.

Proverbs 15:22 – Without counsel, plans go awry, But in the multitude of counselors they are established. (NKJV)

Find several Godly people to evaluate what you are “hearing from God.”  If you are genuinely seeking the honest truth, there will be few times that a group of mature Christians will not help you come to a confident determination.

James 1:5-6 – If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him. But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. (NKJV)

This verse applies directly to your question. Without Godly wisdom, we make the wrong choices; we follow our flesh; we are “tossed about” chasing our own “voice” and not God’s.  The verse also gives the plain and simple solution: ask God for wisdom and He will give it.  That’s the easy part. The hard part is that once you GET wisdom, you will have to LIVE by that wisdom.  That’s means that often we won’t get OUR way.

One last thought…

If you come to a point where you cannot truly decide, be sure that God will honor a decision that is made from a clear conscience and earnest prayer. That doesn’t mean everything will be easy or “successful”, but it does mean that God is always faithful to walk with us.

We don’t need to fear that God will abandon us if we “accidentally” make a poor choice. He may correct us, chasten us or redirect us, but God will not abandon us.  It is a BONDAGE to see God as someone who says “too bad” every time we make a bad choice.

God is our FATHER, not an evil, sadistic taskmaster.  He is just and sin angers Him, no doubt… but for His children, God is our loving, correcting, guiding Father. He doesn’t abandon us over a bad choice.

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The Shack

I posted a review of  “The Shack” about a year ago, but the requests for my evaluation of this book still continue regularly.

I got absolutely TRAMPLED with criticism, name-calling and condemnation when I posted this review the first time… FROM CHRISTIANS. The only reason I’m stupid enough to update it and post it again, is that a year later I’m even MORE convinced the acceptance of this book betrays a overall lack of general discernment among Christians today.

So trample me again. I’m a big boy, I could stand a little rapid weight loss (blood and limbs are pretty heavy). It’s worth getting criticized if a few people see the light and understand why books like this are not edifying (at best) or idolatrous (at worse).

FYI… this is not a statement on the character or motives of the author. I know NOTHING about him. I’m sure he is a fine man, with good motives and probably loves God.  Our love for God and good motives do not excuse us from having our published works evaluated against Scripture by other Christians. Notice how the early Christians examined and tested everything they were taught, even from guys like the Apostle Paul:

Acts 17:11 (emphasis mine) – Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so.

I am evaluating WHAT WAS PUBLISHED.  It is no JUDGMENT on the author, or those who read the book… not even those who LIKE the book.  Some of my very good friends think my review of this book is extreme, even sensationalist. I don’t doubt their motives or think less of them in any way.  This is my opinion. That’s all it’s worth.

If you think I’m wrong, then we disagree. Big deal. Christians can maturely disagree without insults, accusations or condescension. At least, we used to be able to. I’m not sure anymore…

The Question:

I keep hearing about this book ‘The Shack’ and people are even talking about having a study based on it. What can you tell me about it?

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The Shack is another fad sweeping through Christianity, like “The Secret” or the latest “something of purpose”. I get discouraged at the existing general level of discernment and Scriptural knowledge in today’s Church that allows such obviously unScriptural materials to be welcomed into our midst, including previous titles such as:

  • Mary Baxter’s cultic and extra-Biblical “Divine Revelation of Heaven”
  • The metaphysical, new age success book “The Secret”
  • Pop psychology Bible paraphrases like Eugene Peterson’s “The Message”
  • Any number of humanistic, positive-thinking “success” books that relentlessly emphasize God’s desire for you to perpetually and continuously happy, healthy, rich and devoid of any hardship whatsoever appealing directly to our flesh and self focus

It seems that Christians today get easily bored with the Bible, and very little time passes before the next “craze” begins. The latest, and not the last unless Jesus returns soon,  is the book entitled “The Shack”.

The author, William Young, who otherwise appears to be sincere in his love for God, portrays God as a cool talking, hip, occasionally crude black woman. Portraying God as sinful human should be enough (with no further explanation) to label the book as idolatrous (making God into an image) and blasphemous (equating God to a sinful human).

End of story. I shouldn’t even have to go on. But, I do.

We’ve Come A Long Way Baby

A hundred years ago, even 50, even 20… this book would have been immediately exposed and rejected by Christians.  However, we’ve come “a long ways baby”.  Most Christians today cannot even DEFINE idolatry* or blasphemy* so how can we expect them to have the discernment* (the primary trait needed to see error) to recognize idolatry or blasphemy in a book that is such an entertaining and touching story?

The portrayal of God as a human apparently conveys the idea that God really does understands us, and is ready to relate to us on our level. What a HORRIBLE thought. I’ve had enough betrayal, misunderstandings and insults with other HUMANS… why would I want GOD to be HUMAN so I can relate to Him? I like God right where He is: perfect, holy, all-everything and infinitely above the flaws that make human interaction the heartbreaking disaster it so often is. I don’t want to serve a God who is like me… I want to serve a God who is, and will forever remain… … … … … … GOD!

Contrary to the premise (portraying God as human helps us relate to Him), seeing God as human would destroy my faith that He can relate to me. It takes a transcendent, eternal holy God who can see into the depths of my flawed heart for me to truly relate to Him (because all ability to deceive or hide is gone). I know I can KNOW God because I know He Knows that I know He knows. You know?

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In the book, Jesus is a very human middle eastern fellow and the Holy Spirit is an Asian woman.  Now, repeat the last three paragraphs, mix well, and broil at 150 million degrees for eternity.

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Again, just what I’ve said so far should be enough to have Christians immediately reject the book. But no such luck. This has become the latest sweeping fad to make God more “real” and understandable to an ever-increasing Biblically-uninterested and entertainment-minded Church. Christians have jumped on board with this “cool” book and sales have surpassed millions.

Even if nothing else about the book is considered (it’s many unScriptural statements and ideas), IDOLATRY is the most obvious transgression with the author creating his own image of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. He doesn’t use some Biblical symbolism such as a Lion or a Rock, he actually re-creates the Godhood in sinful human form. How can Christians by the millions stomach such an insult to their God and Savior no matter how innocent or well meaning the motive?

It Changed My Life… But It Is Not Bible Teaching

Reviews and testimonies frequently speak of how this book has “changed my life” and “other than the Bible” is “the most important book I’ve ever read”. Christians all over are starting study groups centered on this book. For those who want to characterize this book as an innocent parable or allusion, the fact that this book teaches theology, on purpose or not, is betrayed in the many comments by people stating in so many words it “changed how I see God”.

STOP… don’t pass up that last paragraph to quickly. Look at what I said. The most frequent response I get (during the trampling) is that The Shack “doesn’t claim to be Scripture” or “revelation” or “theology” or “speaking for God”.  And yet, it “changed the life” of Christians who already have a Bible (and a Holy Spirit) available to them?  It’s “the most important” book they’ve read?  Study groups center on it?  But it’s just a little tale with no theological influence?

Uh, no.  A book with that much professed impact on Christians cannot claim it doesn’t teach, present theology or communicate truths.

The vocabulary and dialog of  The Shack is at times crude (which when assigned the Godhead, makes it blasphemous). Jesus is kissed by “god” and enjoys “her” humanness. Throughout the book, “god”, “jesus” and the “spirit”, are shown to be very human and very much like you and me, allowing us to more fully relate to them and increase our knowledge about their true nature (apparently better than the Bible does since so many Christians declare a “life changing” opinion of it). If that’s not teaching doctrine and theology, I’m not sure what is.

In light of that, this book must be judged for theological accuracy, where it fails.

The Problem: a man assigning words to God’s mouth. We cannot create “dialog” for God, Jesus or the Spirit without taking the words directly from Scripture. This is tantamount to declaring divine revelation, and at a minimum, is certainly an exercise in teaching a theological viewpoint. Think about it: how presumptuous of any human to think they can write and print words they THINK God would say (unless they are directly derived from what Scripture plainly declares)?

Even if we could get past the idolatry issue, and call it something akin to “Pilgrims Progress” (which Eugene Peterson, author “The Message” does indeed imply about his humanistic paraphrase of Scripture), the issue then becomes the fact that the book is full of theological error, some of it simply heretical. For more complete explanation of the theological errors, download this PDF.

Neither Satan Nor Oliver Stone Is Stupid

Satan is not stupid. He knows that people will read these types of books, and actually think it is either something God did say, or would say. More and more we see movies, dramatizations, psychology and these types of media replacing the sufficient Word of God.

Just like the movie “JFK” by Oliver Stone leaves crowds of gullible people thinking “that’s what really happened”, movies like Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of the Christ” and humanistic paraphrases like Peterson’s “The Message” leave multitudes of innocent but undiscerning Christians thinking “that’s what God is really like” or “that’s what really happened”.

We should never take license with anything concerning God. We should only illuminate and expound on what Scripture reveals to us when it comes to communicating God’s nature, character and words. Again the fact that “god” speaks in this book is absolutely an exercise in teaching theology, whether or not that is the author’s intention.

This book is another of a long line of attempts that have successfully undermined Christian’s knowledge and trust in the sufficiency of God’s Word (again, even if the author’s motives were innocent). When people commonly say a book “changed my life” and “I’ll never think about God the same way again” – people are saying this about the Shack – you can bet the book is theological statement. Sadly, it is an unBiblical theological statement.

The less we know about the Bible, the easier it is to be bored and go after these fads”, then not discern (there’s that word again) something that  should be avoided.

People who speak out against these fads are becoming increasingly criticized and dismissed as they dare to warn other Christians about the relentless onslaught of teaching/media that is undermining the Bible, the Gospel and Christianity. Deceiving entertainment, psychology, humanism, positive thinking, new age techniques and extra Biblical revelation… all things that should easily be recognized and shunned by Christianity have sadly been embraced with open arms (and often pulpits).

Let the trampling begin.

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Definitions*

Idolatry: replacing the True Nature and Attributes of God with the image, natures, traits or characteristics of our own imagination.  For example, if we see God as ONLY loving and merciful but not as a Judge or Jealous, we make God in OUR image (what we think versus what He declares).  If we create any physical image of God and worship it, or declare it to represent God, then we have created and idol (what WE think God looks like). That is why in Christianity we do not have statues of God or Jesus and bow down to them.

Blasphemy: a term derived from a Greek word meaning to injure the reputation of another (God). In the Bible it means showing contempt or a lack of reverence for God (Lev. 24:16; Mark 2:7).  Achtemeier, P. J., Harper & Row, P., & Society of Biblical Literature. (1985). Harper’s Bible dictionary. Includes index. (1st ed.) (135). San Francisco: Harper & Row.

Discernment: the ability to evaluate and make a correct Godly judgment about what is right or wrong, good or evil.


My Husband Beats Me – Does God Say “Tough Luck”?

abusedQuestion (I’ve removed all details and changed some things to protect the identity of the person who submitted this):

I understand what you are saying about there being two biblical reasons for a divorce but let me share something with you. My husband and I have been together for a while, and for much of that time I’ve been a victim of his anger, including physical violence.

I have stayed and tried to lead him to Christ and be an encouragement. I have stood by him repeatedly but each episode has gotten worse ! I have been choked and punched repeatedly in the head while I was holding our infant and our tween-age daughter was home .  I protected my children even though there has been some unexplained marks on them.

Do you really believe I am suppossed to stay with him? That I haven’t done all I should already ? That this is what God wants for me and my children ? What if next time something horrible happens to one of my children? Wouldn’t I be guilty of not protecting them ? Please answer this I would really like to hear what you think.

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It is a common misunderstanding that being UNCOMPROMISING about Scripture also means a lack of compassion, legalism and a “tough luck” attitude towards those in difficult situations.  No doubt this dear Sister, after reading my “only two reasons for divorce for Christians” (which I stand by and are absolutely true) expected me to answer with “well sorry about that, too bad for you… I guess you just have a tough life.”

That couldn’t be farther from the truth. I believe in the unerring commitment to the literal Scripture. I believe in compassion. I believe in mercy. I believe God wants us to live by the SPIRIT of His Word and not use it as a legalistic taskmaster. I believe that God is merciful. He is also Just. He is patient and forgiving… but that doesn’t mean He isn’t serious about His commands.

When it comes to OTHER PEOPLE, and their life, their situation, their suffering, my duty is to present what I am fully convinced is God’s Word, lean heavily on compassion and in the end, truly realize that their choices are between them and God.  Not me.

So when I present a lesson on something like “divorce and remarriage” and don’t cover every possible situation, then my uncompromising attitude about Scripture would lead some people to think that equates to a lack of mercy, understanding and compassion. May it NEVER be!

My Answer

No sister, I would NOT tell you to stay with him… and I’m VERY sorry to hear that you are enduring that.

The Bible gives two specific reasons for divorce: adultery and abandonment… in your case, you should IMMEDIATELY seek a legal separation to protect yourself and your child.  Then, from a distance, you can seek reconciliation making clear requirements of what your husband must do (and for how long) before you will consider ending the separation.

At that point he will either:

1) change. Let’s pray for that.

2) say “the heck with this” and leave the marriage. Or,

3) say “I’ll try” but then not really make any changes.

The 2nd and 3rd choices mark a clear permanent abandonment of the marriage. He has already committed a pretty obvious abandonment by getting it to this point. I’m amazed that some Christians would say “walking away from a marriage is abandonment, but beating the stew out your wife and choosing to stay in the marriage so she can do your laundry is NOT abandonment of the marriage”.

God knows what true abandonment is, and it can have many different appearances. It is up to Shepherds and spiritually mature Christians to help those in difficult situations discern these things.

You Can’t Play Fast and Loose With Scripture

We must be careful not to be TOO LOOSE with the definition of “abandonment” because it can be easily stretched beyond credibility, but in this case, as described, no spiritually discerning Christian (in my opinion) would say “tough luck”. Your husband has abandoned your marriage in a much worse and much more destructive way than simply walking away.

I advise you to take the children out of that situation NOW, and take IMMEDIATE steps for legal separation. You need to make sure it’s a done properly and is the LEGAL version. If not, the law still considers you “with him” and you lose MUCH of your legal ability to protect yourself both physically and financially.

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A final thought… God gives us standards and direction. He is a God of relationships. He expects us to keep the SPIRIT of the law. Just as Jesus said the “Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath” (Mark 2:27), God’s commandments on marriage are made for us to experience the BEST of marriage. They are not legalistic rules devoid of compassion or understanding. They are the basis upon which we are to firmly ground ourselves in God’s desire for marriage and commitment.

God knows the heart of each person. He knows if YOU hate divorce like He does (Mal 2:6). He knows if YOU only came to divorce as a true last resort. He knows when YOU have been abandoned. He knows when YOU have been the victim of adultery whether it was a physical act or an unwillingness to give up a life of pornography.

You Answer to God

Each of us only have to answer to God.  We should study the Bible daily to know what God says. We should seek to live our lives to what we have learned to the very best of our ability. We should make decisions with conviction and a clear conscience.

I have no problem, much to the chagrin of many of my Christian brethren, agreeing that a woman who is repeatedly brutalized by her husband after several opportunities to stop, has indeed been “abandoned” in the marriage.  While I never want to play fast and loose with Scripture, I also embrace God’s admonition:

Jas 2:13: For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment. (NKJV)

1 Pe 4:8: And above all things have fervent love for one another, for “love will cover a multitude of sins.” (NKJV)

Love covers a multitude of sins. Compassion trumps legalism.

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Update: this dear sister wrote me and explained further that many chances to change the behavior have been granted as well as several opportunities for reconciliation. The last violent episode was finally met with a “last chance” ultimatum which was ignored. She told met that she has a clear conscience she has done everything possible to reconcile and feels free to seek a divorce on the grounds of abandonment.

I would agree based on what has been describe to me.

Thoughts? I know some of you will disagree… please leave a comment and tell us why. We are all interested in the Truth and I don’t claim to have a monopoly on it.